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August 23, 2005



Those are some cool thoughts:) I like that idea of what we do bringing heaven or hell to earth, I think that's so true! It's cool to think of salvation in these terms, i've never been so happy since I found your blog and Brian McLaren's books it's just opened a total other world to me, kinda killed me for the usual Christian terms and preachers,lol

"That's something I can give my life to. Not just a hope for someday, but a hope for now. A hope that I can invite others to experience. A movement of hope that I can invite others to be a part of. Could that be what is central to the gospel?"

I think so!! I've been having a huge debate with my mum about the gospel actually, I was just telling her how I thought sometimes actions speak louder than words, but she thinks we have to preach the gospel too, as in Jesus died to save sinners, he bore our sickenesses etc I dunno I just find it hard to put the gospel into words because it is so vast and I would only screw it up,lol. I think she takes her idea from "Go you into the world and preach the gospel to every creature" I have no idea what the orginal bible language translates,lol but I just wonder how that word 'preach' came about and if it had more meanings than just speaking to a group of people.

Anywho i've written too much as usual!



the one segment of this post that popped out at me was: ". . . language is limited in its scope to be able to speak of God and the spiritual, therefore the text implores metaphorical language, or a language that we can understand in order to speak of these realities (heaven and hell). It does not mean that these realities do not exist, but that we are trying to explain something transcendent using a finite and limited medium."

right on.


These are awesome truths. Your explaination of the Rabbi's thoughts is elequently written and brings out alot of things I had not fully considered.
There's been one statement the Rabbi said that's been ringing in my ears. He said that with "the right wick" Hell can be brought forth into our physical reality. Same with Heaven. Maybe the Church movement is all about finding and being the "right wick" for heaven to burn on.


Love this post!


"You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (Jesus, Mt5:14-16)

Perhaps God does work through our actions to enable "[His] kingdom [to] come, [His] will [to] be done on earth as it is in heaven."

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